Muddy Waters

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  My apologies to everyone.

  by DATA-DOG in

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  i just wanted to openly apologize to anyone that i have ever offended on this website.

  i have been thinking about this lately.

  we all seem to go through the same various stages of learning ttatt, anger, sorrow, frustration, bible champion, agnostic, atheist, ect.

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  I love your posts and comments, DD. Love when you're having a good laugh (HAHAHAHAHAHAHA's) at the WT's latest or usual stupidity. :)
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  When we die...

  by Finallyfree12 in

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  do you beleive our spirit lives on in other dimensions or are we really just dead?

  ?.

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  I love this thread! I love the ideas and thoughts expressed.

  Love your summation, galaxie, and your thoughts and reasonings too, apopgonos ,( excuse me if spelled wrong, am on iPad and is more tricky to post !)
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  What if you were a member of the GB and you woke up

  by enigma1863 in

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  what if you were a member of the gb and you woke up and realized it's all bs.

  what would you do?

  i would try to change the org from within..

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  Awesome post, Ocean.

  They are like a bunch of inept Ferengi.
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  Rutherford Interviews about Beth Sarim

  by brotherdan in

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  2. beliefs

  but i thought it was very insightful as to the craziness of rutherford.

  in these articles, he is interviewed by the san diego sun and time magazine.

  i'd like to know what everyone thinks!

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  Muddy Waters

  Wow, this is an awesome thread!! Bumping.
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  Having It Both Ways

  by Perry in

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  2. beliefs

  i posted this 10 years ago.

  here is an updated version fresh for the 2012 holidays :.

  1. jehovahs witnesses claim to have no clergy and hence are supposed to be totally unlike christendoms' rulers who get special reverence and lord it over their brothers.

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  Excellent, ty. Marking.
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  Why do I bother to wake up in the morning?

  by punkofnice in

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  2. friends

  i'm not suicidal just fed up.. i did think of suicide (briefly), but as there is no painless way and it's not something i would willingly do just in case things would have been better the day after.

  i do have a slight grain of hope.. money problems.....problems at home (that's another matter with a son up court for something he is adamant he didn't do.

  first offence but the pigs police and the cps have got charges made.

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  Geez, I so know your feelings, PunkOfNice, and all the regrets from living a life of someone else's delusion, which became even their enforced delusion.

  It hurts. And it sucks. But today the sun is shining and the snow is melting and the birds are singing happily -- I know it sounds corny, but sometimes it really is the small things.

  Whatever happens with your son, he is his own person and adult. All you can do is support him and be there for him. And hopefully the balances in the universe will make it all right for him... and that the justice balance will be in his favour. I don't know what to think about god anymore, so right now things are all about "universal balance" for me. Those thoughts may change as I continue this journey from the cult.
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  What JW beliefs did you used to hate trying to defend?

  by DuvanMuvan in

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  2. beliefs

  as one of the jw "young ones" i was always expected to witness to my friends at school if i wanted to make god's heart glad or whatever but i didn't.

  the closest i ever got was just explaining why we didn't celebrate christmasetc.

  even then i was just reciting things i read in publications.. one topic i always tried to avoid talking about was birthdays.

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  Muddy Waters

  1914 !! Ugh.
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  Ding Dong . . .

  by ABibleStudent in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  h'mmm, it is almost 11:00 am on a wednesday.

  i wonder if it is a jw.. to the best of my knowledge the following happened, but i did get a little excited during our intial conversation and what transpired later so i may not be recounting the facts correctly.. i went downstairs with my trusty sharpie in my pocket to answer the door.

  at the door there was an older (~75 year-old) man in a suit and appeared to be in good health.

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  Muddy Waters

  Fleaman, agree with you. I know an art student who collects the annual Memorial invitations (he finds them really amusing!)
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  Classic repost from AlltimeJeff; recently completely - Free!

  by WingCommander in

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  2. friends

  i wanted to give this very public shout-out and congratulations to alltimejeff, who i have come to find out had turned in his letter of da, twice, then was read out at the meeting recently.

  for those not knowing, atf was a 2005 gilead graduate, bethelite, missionary.

  they mean the leadership.

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  Muddy Waters

  ..... marking, ty
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  Progess!

  by Jon Preston in

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  well my wife asked me loint blank..."do you wanna be a witness anymore?

  " and i told her no.. .

  we then went into 1914 and shunning and 1975 and she said sheswondered many times about it.. anyways she said "so what do we do now?

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  This is a new stage for both of you... She may need to take some time and think through some of this before making a decision. There is no rush. Let her absorb what it would mean, fade vs DA and consequences thereof.